How tragic is this? I don't know if the cause of his death was accidental or not, it still is really sad. I think we should watch "10 things I hate about you" in honor of Heath. Then, afterwards, we can remember all the good times that we had we Heath.
"There was this was time that Heath and I"..........
It reminds me just how short and unpredictable our time on earth is. We never know when Heavenly Father is ready to call us home---do we? Enjoy the time we have. I love all the Beautiful Women for making me feel beautiful whenever I am around them!
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10 Things I Hate about you? May as well follow that up with A Knight's Tale to finish your evening of crappy acting and ruining Shakespeare. Seriously, I'm not a Ledger fan especially after the aforementioned fecal matter that passed as 'films', but his passing is sad. I was looking forward to his role as the Joker because he was finally playing a role where he didn't have to rely on being a heart throb, and based on the teaser trailer alone, he brought the Joker to a whole new level. Yeah, yeah, it's not a chick flick, but if you view solely his role, he nailed it.
Whoooa, Ronny. Let's keep in mind here that a man has died. We're not here to critique his body of work, but remember the good things he left behind. Maybe 10 Things is not your cup of tea, but there are plenty of people (men and women) who have found enjoyment from it.
And FYI, he actually did quite a few films (Monster's Ball, The Patriot, Ned Kelly, The Order, Lords of Dogtown, I'm Not There) where he did not "rely" on being a heart throb. The Dark Knight will not be the first.
Marie
Wait...someone died?!?! As evidenced by my post (please re-read if you need reference), I'm well aware of his passing.
I'm also well aware of his past roles, as most who have the ability to use google are aware. I was merely commenting on the blog that suggested watching 10 Things to remember, as you put it, 'the good things he left behind'. Remembering the good things someone has left behind should refer to actual acts of kindness that affect humanity, not a list of films that no one will care about in 10 years.
If we're remembering the good things, perhaps we should focus on the charities (FYI) he was involved in that actually benefit someone in need. As opposed to us spending 120 minutes 'remembering the good things' so we feel better about ourselves, maybe we should do something. Just a suggestion.
Lively Banter! I like it!
Way to get the conversation going with your Blog Megs! I appreciate your affection for the actor.
A special kudos to Ron & Marie for their opinions as well.
Since we're on topic, here's my 2 cents:
It is true, it's sad that Ledger died. But sadder still-- the media's fixation with celebrity lives. Societally, we perpetuate it. That's tragic to me.
I'm not sure what was more disturbing- Heath dying at age 28 or the fact that I got 5 emails (at work) in the first 5 minutes that the announcement of his death hit the news.
Our own military men & women sacrifice their lives in Iraq daily. But this is what the headlines read: "Heath Ledger's possible suicide attempt..."
Pretty ironic when you think about it.
Kris
I agree, Kris. There are lots of things that are messed up in our crazy world. Hopefully, each of us can do something to ease that craziness.
And Ron, I never said you were not aware of his passing. I was merely focusing on what you were focusing on--his acting. I just thought it was a bit harsh to be critiquing his work so soon after his death. Yes, some people don't like those films or Heath's acting in them. And I love that everyone can have his/her own opinion about that. But come on. "Fecal matter" less than a day after he's died? Wow. That's class.
And I'm glad to know now that doing charity work is the only way to do good in the world. Silly me, I thought sharing your talents could be of help to others as well.
Then, if we should spend time focusing on his humanitarian efforts or charity work, I nominate Ron to head up that committee! What shall we start with? Since I don't know how to use google and you do, I will let you find out exactly what causes he supported. I am thinking Gay Rights! Boy howdy!
No, no, no. You have me all wrong Mrs. BWD. In fact, your assumptions are quite entertaining for me. I've thought Heath Ledgers work in those two movies was fecal matter long BEFORE he died, and have expressed such opinions at those times, as well as now. Yes, it is too bad that my opinion was brought to your attention due to a sad little blog (from someone I'm pretty sure had no personal connection with him, whatsoever) right after he died, but feel guilty because I expressed it and you don't like it? Not I.
Another entertaining point about your comment. You love how everyone can have/his own opinion, etc. and then you add (in predictable fashion after making yourself sound tolerant first) by attempting to belittle me by saying I have no class for having an opinion and the timing that I expressed it. BEAUTIFUL. Unlike your obvious attempt to slight me, I have thoroughly enjoyed your opinions, as self-righteous as they may be.
And I'm sure that sharing his talents has changed the lives of millions of hungry, homeless, orphans around the world. Such a noble trade he was involved in.
Again, your assumptions are funny to me. I never said charity work was the only good thing that could be done in the world. But watching one of his movies to remember the good things he left? Who in the hell does that benefit? Oh yes, yourself and no one else. Yes, selfishness is most beneficial. Don't get me wrong, I like movies, and I like movies with Heath Ledger in them, but to pretend that that benefits anyone other than myself and my own entertainment is a bit far fetched.
Oh, and P.S. He died Tuesday, so it's been more than a day.
Very entertaining, again. Coming from a woman who is part of an all female blog. With pictures of you all out on the town...all dressed up. So, what I take from that is, you're all lesbians, or dudes dressed in drag. Yes, nice try on the gay rights thing, but since you suggested it, perhaps you should start a focus group.
BTW - I really don't think any of you are dudes or lesbians.
Ron, I feel that there are some things to clear up. So, to help Kris from thinking two of her friends want to rumble, please allow me to clarify some things.
1) I truly do believe everyone has a right to his/her opinion. You can think anyone or anything is a big pile of steaming poop or the greatest thing since sliced bread, and I have no problem with that (whether or not you choose to believe me when I say that). The thing I had issue with was you expressing it so soon (I was off with the timing-I admit that). I felt it was insensitive due to the timing of the death, regardless of how well the poster knew the subject of her post. That was what I was trying to express, which apparently I didn't do clearly enough (I tend to go into attack dog mode when my friends are involved). I reacted more quickly, perhaps, than I should have. And maybe if I had had the chance to talk with you previously, this would have been a non-issue because I would have known how you felt.
2) I do think that there are many ways a person can do good in the world. Does making a movie make a person a candidate for the Nobel Peace Prize? Probably not--Al Gore could be the exception to that. Are all charity workers in it for the good of those they are serving? I couldn't say. But I wonder if any of us can really know every way good is done or put out into the world.
On a scale of importance, this debate over an acting thing ranks pretty low, but I do like a good debate, and I got caught up in that. The "doing good" part is a no-win situation in my opinion, especially since it appears our opinions won't line up on certain things.
Honestly, you sound like someone I would like to chat with about a number of things, even if you thought I was being thoroughly self-righteous the whole time. I have a feeling it would be interesting conversation.
Oh, and I wasn't the one who made the comment about the gay thing. I will try to get my name on all my comments from here on out. But maybe we can still look into doing that focus group.
Thanks for visiting our blog. I truly look forward to future comments.
Marie
To your recent comments:
1) I understood your original issue with the timing of my comment, which is exactly why I made it in the first place. As I said in my original post, it is sad that he passed. However, I am quite confident he would not bat an eye if I died naked in a hotel room. I make no apologies on that matter, but I also have no problem honoring someone who has passed.
2) I disagree with the 'no win' situation as far as doing good. Yes, people don't always do the work for the good of the needy. I've been involved in many a charity group with people like that. But, at least they are doing something. If it benefits the greater good, it's simply better than feeling good about watching a movie that will have no social relevance in the near, or far future. But, using Heath Ledger as an example of that is a bit off the mark. Yes, Al Gore did raise awareness about issues that needed to be addressed and that will affect people positively in the long run. I'm not so sure any of the films in Heath's career will do just that. But, I think using Al Gore as an example isn't quite related to this topic. He used his 'celebrity' status to portray an issue he felt was important. It didn't appear to me he was sharing his acting talent to get that message across.
I know you didn't make the gay rights comment, it wasn't your writing style.
And finally, for the record (as K to the ris will validate), my comments were purely for my own entertainment, and on topics that I do have opinions on, but really don't care too much about. It was more of a social experiment/joke to see how people who I don't know, and who don't know me, would respond. All comments were pretty much right on cue to what I expected (even the gay rights thing, but I expected more of a cowboy reference). I hope you didn't take my comments as me being angry or upset, I was laughing the whole time. I hope y'all aren't too upset by me being a jackass, but I yam what I yam :)
Beautiful friends whom I love!
Marie! I love you! You have a great heart. I can't say this hasn't been entertaining, because it has! I have thoroughly enjoyed the comments written by both you and Ron. Thank you for your opinions and especially for your most recent posting. :)
Ron, as usual, thanks for your rapier wit and sparring ability. This blog is a great example of why conversation with you is never boring. :)
Megs, I hope you and Marie haven't taken offense. Ron has a good heart and I believe he is doing all of this in fun!
In my opinion, it has made the blog that much more interesting. So I appreciate all of your comments. I actually hope we can have some more discussions like this... give this blog some extra flava.
As you can see, dear friends, all of you are very opinionated and this is one of the reasons I like all of you so much! Agree or Disagree, I'm glad each of you have a voice and that you use it!
Cheers!
Kris
I really don't like my friends being used as a "social experiment." Megs comment was simply a comment for the beautiful women and random stuff for our friends...what ron said was hurtful sarcasm meant to push buttons and cause contention...not cool...ron please don't write on the blog anymore...thanks
This is a public blog. If we write a blog we should be able to defend what we say in it. You may have disagreed with what Ron said but he didn't make any personal attacks until he was attacked personally on the blog... elusion to being "gay" etc... He is as entitled to his opinion as we are to ours.
I think it is very myopic to get offended at a comment that was made because it differs from your own.
I appreciate Marie stating her case and having some dialogue even if though she didn't agree. Thank you for doing that. It would be nice if Megan and Camille would label their comments so we know who wrote them.
Girls, if we really are strong, powerful women- why are we crumbling at the first sarcastic comment that is made in our blog? If we are what we say we are, this should be a forum for expression and opinion.
If you would rather cut out our friends because you're afraid they might say something we don't like- then we should be posting a newsletter, and not a blog.
I disagree with telling Ron not to comment. He disagreed with what was written. So what?? We can still write what we want and we do. If we cut Ron out, maybe we should cut everyone else out too...
I don't think it's fair to tell one person they aren't allowed to comment because they think differently.
I do appreciate all of you girls and I'm glad we have a place to put our thoughts and feelings online. This blog does have privacy settings. Although, I think we should see what people write to us. Any of us can make changes.
Kristin
This is the last of it all. When I said that Heath probably supported Gay Rights, I in NO WAY meant that Ron was gay! That is not what was said. So, I apologize if that is the way it was taken. Sorry.
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